teeth

[johndela1]

I really desperately want to same my teeth, and I also really want to
keep eating this way, but it seems that all the fruit acid and/or the
frequent eating is very harmful to the teeth Either that, or I am
lacking some kind of minerals or something.

How are you arriving at this conclusion?

[fictor]

My teeth where not like this before starting Wai.
The difference from before is more fruits (acid)
and less minerals. Simple as that

[RRM]

Its not that more minerals = harder teeth, and I doubt that you lack minerals, but yes, the fruit acids dont have a positive effect on the enamel.

[summerwave]

you can rinse after eating these acidic foods.

At the same time I started Wai, I overhauled my use of artificial lighting, too, using full-spectrum lightbulbs (yes; we are told to use compact fluorescents for energy conservation, but I ignored that) as going outside a LOT more. Light has a tremendous effect on vit. D and mineral absorption, though, as has been said on here more than once, that it not the only story...

If you are at a far northern latitude in winter and are bathed in artificial lighting, I do wonder how that affects your health; including reenamelization of teeth from absorbed minerals. There are many things you can do with light therapy for your health.

[fictor]

Vitamin D, and possibly other fat soluble vitamins, does indeed
play a big role in remineralization of teeth and bones, according
to the research of Weston Price and others.

I do indeed live far north (Norway), but prefer supplementing
a raw cod liver oil (which I will hopefully be receiving soon)
and eat a little more eggs than to use 'light therapy'.

I do try to catch some daylight every day though, and used
to do short sessions in a tanning bed (5-10 mins. 1-2 times a week)
but stopped it because I was having very dry and sensitive skin.
I might start this kind of 'light therapy' agian though, if my skin
dryness and sensitiveness passes with weather getting milder,
me taking cod liver oil, and hopefully getting a shower filter
installed at my girlfriends house (she has chlorinated water).

Monday is dentist day, so I guess we will see then, if rinsing,
brushing and 'toothsoap' and' toothswish' has had any effect
on my enamel, and how bad the actual damage is. Wish me luck

[summerwave]

The Toothsoap is excellent and you will do very well to use it over time, I think.

Reducing artificial lighting, not having a television, and limiting time on a computer, as well as using full-spectrum lights, has not just affected my skin; teeth-- it is an overall feeling, better sleep cycles, and hormonal balance, too. It is hard to live very far north in some ways.

[fictor]

I do watch television and spend hours a day at the computer, so I could probably benefit from some more daylight, and less screen-light.

Do you live far north yourself?

[summerwave]

yes; in the U.S.; just near the border to Canada...

Full-spectrum bulbs and outdoor time are a way of life to me.

I bought a lot of extra clothes to be able to spend more time outside.

[summerwave]

Light Years Ahead: The Illustrated Guide to Full Spectrum and Colored Light in Mindbody Healing (Paperback) - by Brian Breiling (Editor)

is a good book.

Also, English-language books by John Ott, if you do not have them already.

Good health is very much correlated with proper exposure to natural lighting.

[RRM]

My teeth are really not doing well. They are sensitive, feels "un-solid", have a rough surface rather than a smooth one,
have yellow/brown colored spots (not actual cavities) and
generally feels like crap.

For what's worth; A while ago (1 year?) my teeth had a rough surface too, but now they are smooth again. I cant see any yellow/brown colored spots, and they are not sensitive.

[summerwave]

Dear Fictor, I used to eat ghee with no oxidized cholesterol (it was produced at just low enough a temperature, according to its label, as to result in only 'clean' non-oxidized cholesterol) and at that time looked up butter oil in many sources.

I could never figure out what the 'Wulzen' factor or specific vitamin in it they refer to is.... it seemed like it was something called stigmasterol (which is not exclusive to animal sources)-- but the literature is very confusing. I seem to have concluded that one could find it in non-butter sources.

Did you find out what this touted substance is? I truly could not figure it out. But I did give up ghee even in small amounts, and all dairy, at some point. I am curious if you could untangle all the writing there is on the butter oil.

[fictor]

I could never figure out what the 'Wulzen' factor or specific vitamin in it they refer to is....

Did you find out what this touted substance is? I truly could not figure it out. But I did give up ghee even in small amounts, and all dairy, at some point. I am curious if you could untangle all the writing there is on the butter oil.

Dear summerwave.

I use butter oil (ghee) that is not heated. I think it is extracted by a
centrifugal process.

At westonaprice.org I found the following being said about "the Wulzen factor":

"The Wulzen or "anti-stiffness" factor is a nutrient unique to butter. Dutch researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification of the joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the arteries, cataracts and calcification of the pineal gland.
American Journal of Physical Medicine, 1941, 133; Physiological Zoology, 1935 8:457"

This Wulzen factor comesonly as a bonus for me. I am taking butter oil
primarily because Weston A Price reported that it had a synergistic effect
with cod liver oil. This might be due to the "X-factor" which is probably
the vitamin K2, which might help with absorption and utilization of other
nutrients such as (fat soluble) vitamins and minerals.

So far I dont think I have had any negative effects from it, but this
is only my own experience a few weeks in, and should not be taken too
seriously

So, to sum it up, I think it is this Wulzen factor, the X-factor (K2), vitamin
A and D, some beneficial fatty acids and some cholesterol that is the
'magic' in the butter oil. The only bad thing would be some growth hormones...

[summerwave]

I looked back at my notes and the Wulzen factor is stigmasterol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmasterol


It looks like as you say, cold-process butter oil is a good concentrated source of several things, including clean cholesterol-- but K1 and K2, as well as stigmasterol-- everything but the cholesterol, in fact-- is not unique to butter or butter oil, nor found in only animal sources.

I was just wondering....

[summerwave]

I have changed my diet so much -- always finetuning-- I can't always remember what my decisions were, or why....


I guess I decided here to get cholesterol from egg yolks, mainly, and let the body absorb the rest that dairy offers-- vitamins A and D; K; etc, from other foods. The ghee ultimately seemed very strange in the effects it had on me; someone else said it made his girlfriend's breasts painful to eat dairy, and that seems to be an effect.

It is hard to chase sunlight in the winter here, but I try to do so. Cholesterol and sunlight have good effects on the body, right? Perhaps it is time to go to the Caribbean....

[fictor]

Perhaps it is time to go to the Caribbean....

That sounds very nice! Can I come?

About the butter oil, I am mainly doing it, as I said, because
Weston Price found it to work well in combination with cod
liver oil, no scientific explanation offered, except it might be because
of the "X-factor"/K2.

I will keep doing it for now, but in the future, if my skin allows me to
eat more eggs, fish, meat, shellfish etc. I will discontinue all dairy.
Until then, some butter oil and cod liver oil will be part of my diet.