Excess increase in Testosterone increases Sebum?

[dionysus]

correct?

But an increase in Sebum itself cannot cause acne and this is why weight-lifting and sex do not cause acne?

[RRM]

correct?

Yes.

But an increase in Sebum itself cannot cause acne and this is why weight-lifting and sex do not cause acne?

An increase in sebum can cause acne if there already is also some level of water retention and testosteron may just do that.

[dionysus]

Just some clarification, testorone may cause water retention as well?

[RRM]

yes...

[thecalaquendi]

So then... guys are doomed?

[dionysus]

No, different men have different levels of testorone

[Biev]

Ahaha, so some guys are doomed. That's so much better : P

[Sarah Anne]

i read something weird today

deep crying can permanently rebalance testosterone levels in the body?!

i'm going to give it a try (-:

[fictor]

Men, and women, needs testosterone. Men get easily depressed
when testosterone levels are too low.

I have never heard of testosterone making water stay in the
skin. Some backup on this theory of yours RRM?

As I have said before, as far as I know, sex (or rather
ejaculation) LOWERS testosterone levels, not the other
way around.

Also, working out and having sex is both natural and healthy.

[dionysus]

I have never heard of testosterone making water stay in the
skin. Some backup on this theory of yours RRM?

Me, though i would replace testosterone with the word hormone(s) (i.e. Epinephrine/Adrenaline, etc)

[RRM]

I have never heard of testosterone making water stay in the
skin. Some backup on this theory of yours RRM?

Its not MY theory
Its not a theory
Any pharmacist can tell you that.
Its well known that testosterone and estrogen make you retain water.
Much of the effect of testosterone may be due to estrogen, as part of the testosterone gets converted into estrogen.
It has been well documented that supplementary testosterone readily leads to leg edema, for example.
Also, it is generally known that premenstrual high estrogen levels lead to water retention (bloating).

[fictor]

Well, I never heard of it before. Thats all...

[fictor]

Even though scrolling trough the wikipedia article on testosterone I
did not find anything about water retention, I easily found information on
this quality of synthetic testosterone online. I do not see why natural
testosterone would not work the same way, so RRM, you are right in
your claims, I just had not researched the topic well enough.

But, to back up my claims that one should not try to minimize
ones testosterone levels to beat acne, I quote from the Wiki-article
on testosterone

"In both men and women, testosterone plays a key role in health and well-being as well as in sexual functioning."

[dionysus]

But if you have high levels (which is linked acne), do you think you should try to minimise fluctuations?

[fictor]

I think you are right to not choose the kind of workout and lifestyle
that is known to increase testosterone levels the most, but I
do not think it is wise to say abstain from sexual activity or
try to minimize physical activity.

Have sex, most research shows that it is healthy, and it sure
is natural. Also, we are made to be physically active. It is also
both natural and healthy. In stead of weight lifting, try
yoga or thai chi. It is not known to increase testosterone, and
it is very healthy to your whole system. Walking, working in
the garden (as I have understood that you do a lot) should
also be perfectly safe, regarding massive testosterone bursts